ISRAEL AGAINST the WORLD

For Some of You Deniers......

By Youranter, published Dec 21, 2006
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ISRAEL AGAINST THE WORLD

This is for those of you out there that believe Israel is the big, bad bully of the Mid-East. It is an article by Peter Worthington, reprinted here in its entirety. I know this is sort of cheating, but it's CHRISTMAS, not the holiday season as some left wingers want to call it, and I've been too busy CHRISTMAS shopping to spend a lot of time here. Forgive me. I'll be back on the 26th.

The Toronto Sun - Nov. 26, 2006 - Peter Worthington

As an added CHRISTMAS present, I submit to you a letter to the editor that appeared in the Toronto Sun. The editor's reply is in the brackets.

From the start I appreciated the interesting report on the Guantanamo detention centre ("Inside Gitmo," Peter Worthington, Nov. 12). I was surprised that the readers' responses you chose to print last week were negative, siding with the terrorists. Worthington is a fine, knowledgeable journalist who knows of what he is writing, and his word can be taken at face value. The conditions at Gitmo truly are appalling, hair-raising, terrible and also humiliating -- not for the inmates, but for all of us.

Barbara Sherriff

(Worthington is known for telling it like it is)

Merry CHRISTMAS, Ho ho ho.

Want to know why we (meaning the West) won't win the war on terror? Look at Israel, arguably the toughest, least compromising of the democracies when it comes to combating terrorism. It has been fighting terrorism from the day it became a sovereign state, thanks to the UN.

 
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Jeff, do some homework yourself. The reasons they hate us have ben known for over 60 years.

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Posted on 01/18/2007 at 2:01:00 AM

 
Here is a question for everyone that attacks Paul for his statements on the origins of terrorism...I ask you this..if he is wrong, then what are the motivations for terrorism? And don't just tell me "they hate us" tell me why...

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Posted on 01/17/2007 at 3:01:00 PM

 
Just curious, Paul. What exactly do you thinnk we should do to "remove ourselves"? When we stayed out of things, they attacked us anyway. S.L. was right, you're dreaming.

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Posted on 12/29/2006 at 1:12:00 PM

 
I said, I'm not talking about "playing nice" with terrorists S.L. If you have read my comments and thought about it you would understand--I'm talking about pursuing terrorists, but at the same time altering US policies in the muslim world which are wrong to begin with. This way we remove ourselves as a target of hatred. This is teh short answer, for there are many pieces to this puzzle

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Posted on 12/25/2006 at 10:12:00 PM

 
Just a thought, Paul. When we were excusing and forgiving terrorist activities, it didn't make them any nicer. They didn't expect us to start fighting back and there was 9-11. They see playing nice as weakness and you think that will keep them from attacking again? You're dreaming.

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Posted on 12/24/2006 at 11:12:00 AM

 
Don & Youranter, motives certainly do matter if we want to find a solution to our problems. All out warfare is not a solution, but a counterproductive endeavor. It is impossible to kill terrorism away. Therefore, the only solution is to remove ourselves as a target by altering policies which are viewed in the muslim world as belligerent. We'll have to end this discussion here because we obviously have a difference in philosophy.

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Posted on 12/23/2006 at 9:12:00 PM

 
BTW, Paul, you didn't mention Denmark, did you? They didn't have many problems with Muslims either until one of their citizens drew that cartoon. Then those friendly, peaceful people started a nasty killing rampage. Funny, they can denegrate the beliefs of others, but they launch murder sprees when someone makes a joke about them.

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Posted on 12/22/2006 at 10:12:00 AM

 
Interesting comments Paul. I ran across an article today that says, in Britain, Muhammed and all its variations, is the most used name for newborns today due to the growing Muslim population. You say Norway or Sweden don't seem to have a problem with Muslims. Like cancer, the disease of terrorists spreads slowly. Another 5 years and Norway and Sweden will have a problem with them. Not all Muslims are terrorists but the rabid radicals will make themselves known. They are out to either convert Christians or kill them. End of story.

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Posted on 12/22/2006 at 10:12:00 AM

 
One more thing, Paul. You can't possibly believe that the whole reason for the terrorists is that Israel exists. That's too naieve for words!

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Posted on 12/22/2006 at 6:12:00 AM

 
Paul, you obviously have some issues. Guilt isn't going to get you anywhere, and blaming us for the terrorists is unproductive as well. If there is some concilliation you think we could make to turn the terrorists into rational people, it has probably already been tried. No matter what motives you attribute to them, the facts remain that they have done the attacking and we have only retaliated. We did not create them any more than they created us. Two diametrically opposed views seldom create lasting friendships (with the exception of Hannity and Colmes, maybe). When you add bad tempers, a twisting of religion, and weaponry, the only result you can reasonably expect is war. Cutting and running, or peace at any price, or appeasement will not solve the problem. Have you been listening to their mullahs lately? They're calling for more attacks and more killings.

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Posted on 12/22/2006 at 6:12:00 AM

 
got cut off--apply this scenario to the occupied territories.

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Posted on 12/22/2006 at 5:12:00 AM

 
And Youranter, Palestinian suicide bombers certainly don't play by the rules. But you are overlooking the motivation of suicide bombers and other terrorism, which is to drive out Israel from the occupied territories. Israel is far more in violation of the "rules" than Palestinian terrorists because they are a nation state, with a powerful army and nuclear weapons, who have been blatantly defying international law and calls for their withdrawal from land they acquired by force(which is illegal for any nation). Tell me what you would do if the US invaded Canada, kicked you off your land and built settlements there, treated all Canadians like 2nd class citizens, killed innocent Canadians on a regular basis and demlished their homes using the hunt for Canadian terrorists as an excuse? How would you feel if this went on for 40 yrs? You would probably want to do whatever possible to drive the Americans out of your country right? its not a perfect analogy but apply this scenario to the occupi

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Posted on 12/22/2006 at 5:12:00 AM

 
And Youranter, stop with the I "I didn't write the article" routine--you clearly agree with the article wholeheartedly, which is why you are posting it.

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Posted on 12/22/2006 at 5:12:00 AM

 
Don, you are wrongly assuming that the main motivation for terrorists is to convert us to Islam and take over America--First of all, that is impossible--not even 10 9/11's could destroy this country. Second of all, their main motivation is political, to drive the US and other western forces off muslim land and to make us pay for supporting brutal regimes for our own benefit. Do you see them attacking Sweden or Norway for instance? No, because those people don't meddle in muslim nations the way we do. Changing our policies will remove us rom the equation and actually helping muslims rather than blowing up their countries and threatening them will make it much less likely that a new generation will turn to extremism. You have to try to look at it from their perspective to understand how theyperceive the west. Bottom line, it is false to believe that they are just mindless murderers--even the CIA would tell you so.

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Posted on 12/22/2006 at 5:12:00 AM

 
Boy, I wish I was getting paid for this! I went back to check and there it is, in black and white, the article was written by Peter Worthington, not me. I just passed it on. Some people seem to have missed that little bit. Seems it was a good thing to do though. Don, clown, you know more about Viet Nam than I do, but it's not the crux of the article. Seems to me that Peter is saying Israel will never win the war against Palestinians because, like the States, they play by the rules while the terrorists don't. Don, I think the clown is suffering shell shock. Be gentle with him. When you push his buttons he gets sillier than he normally is.

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