Why It's Okay for Carlos Mencia to Steal Jokes: Comedy and the Tradition of Appropriation

A small storm has been raging in the comedy world after the Feb. 10th incident between Joe Rogan of NBC's Fear Factor and comedian Carlos Mencia. Rogan is getting attention with strong worded accusations that Mencia steals much of his successful and lucrative material. This type of tumult
 is nothing new in an industry that operates virtually beyond the protection of copyright laws.

Comedians, for the most part, cling to their material and react emotionally to its unauthorized re-use, but the act of stealing artistic material is a long standing human tradition. Beyond comedy, all art forms utilize appropriation, as it is called politely, to recreate and reinvigorate old ideas. All art uses appropriation in one form or other. To draw from nature, as Leonardo did, is to essentially steal an image from the world.

The greatest of creative geniuses have all been frauds to some extent. The most famous love story of all time, Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliette, was an unoriginal story, being based on an older poem about the exploits of Tristan and Isolde. Picasso, possibly the most powerful and inspirational painter in two thousand years, is noted to have gained influence for his cubist style from his visits to Africa and exposure to their artistic culture.

All of this was placed center stage during the age of Andy Warhol as outright copies of soap boxes and soup cans crowded the minds of the great artistic thinkers. Warhol offered us an almost quantum-mechanical view of art and the creative process, one where observation held a vital role in creating the nature of that which was being observed. In this slightly extremist viewpoint, theft is impossible, since any re-creation will unavoidably be altered by the context of its retelling.

 
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There is a HUGE difference between taking inspiration from nature or building on the premise of some poem and stealing jokes. If I were to take the painting of the Mona Lisa and change the colors up a bit or take a Romeo and Juliet and replace the characters with Dick and Jane, there would be no question that I am steal other artist's works. Mencia does the same thing. He takes the premise of a successful joke (the punch line), repackages the delivery, and makes bank off it. There is a big difference between inspiration and repackaging. If you can't see the difference, its no wonder you defend Carlos.

Posted on 07/03/2009 at 12:07:23 PM

Carlos Mencia steals, ideas, words, his name isn't even Carlos, its Ned... the guy is total fake piece of garbage

Posted on 06/04/2009 at 3:06:23 PM

The way I see it. Mencia is like a Robin Hood. He steals from the rich and gives it to the poor. If these other comedians cannot work these jokes that they claim is theirs (I'm sure they too had stolen it from other unknown comics), then let Mencia use these materials. The bottom line is, is that it makes people happy. Mencia is a great and talented comedian. People connect with him. He said thing as it is. He's like one us. A real person, not just somebody who performs a character. Maybe these other comedians steal his materials so they might be as successful as him.

Posted on 04/24/2009 at 3:04:57 AM

Van Gogh painted from real life, but he didn't plagiarize or copy Rembrandt-paintings etc; however Carlos Mencia simply makes a Xerox-copy of everything he sees, and signs his name on it! And you're calling it the same thing. That's the most non-sequitur analogy I've ever heard! It's like comparing Hitler to the Orkin-man.

Posted on 04/11/2009 at 9:04:01 AM

There's a difference between appropriation and MIS-appropriation: Mencia is definitely the latter. However he lacks the self-deprecating tone, being more an egotist who thinks he's smarter than anyone else. Apparently good comic-artists borrow, but comic-artists who STEAL get their own shows on Comedy Central... especially after there's a new planet discovered in the solar-system, since then they figure there's maybe finally a planet on which Carlos Mencia isn't a proven hack (since he is on all the others).

Posted on 04/11/2009 at 9:04:07 AM

Taking from someones "style" and remolding it into your own is one thing. However, much of Mencia's material is a blatant rip off from other comedians. Listen to some of the comparisons...If I was a comedian I would be pissed at Mencia to.

Posted on 04/09/2009 at 10:04:23 PM

I've got a great idea to start a writing career- by "appropriating" George Meluch's articles, but printing them in all italics (you know, because it's a different delivery). I'm sure he won't mind. What a douche...

Posted on 04/01/2009 at 10:04:47 AM

Why did you feel a need to justify a thief? It is NOT okay for Ned Holness to steal jokes. Every other comedian steals one or two, but I don't think Ned Holness has any original material. If you think he does, you just haven't figured out who he's stealing from yet.

Posted on 03/22/2009 at 9:03:16 AM

Comparing Ned Holness to Shakespeare or Picasso? There is a big difference between being influenced by something and plagiarism. Imagine if Ned was selling Picasso prints claiming them to be originals? His behaviour is at the very least immoral.

Posted on 02/28/2009 at 8:02:00 AM

really a great job. this is literary genius (read propaganda). Way to justify stealing and support the desensitization of racism. Children can tell the difference between inspiration and theft. Why can't you? Finally, you are an imbecile and higher education would serve you well.

Posted on 02/25/2009 at 10:02:19 AM

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