The Origin and Usage of the Term 86

"You're 86'd!" Who Said it First?

86 may be the most common term uttered in bars and restaurants. It means the supply of an item is exhausted, as in "Tell the customer to order another appetizer. The soup du jour is 86'd. We're out." It is used to cut customers off as well, as in "Don't serve
 Drunk Guy over there anymore, he's 86'd." It can go as far as meaning to eject or debar from the premises, as in "Johnny's 86'd. Every time he comes in here he starts a fight, so he is no longer welcome." The term is used often, yet not everyone knows where it came from. The following are some of the many theories of where the term originated.

My favorite theory is that it originated at Chumley's, a famous 1900's New York speakeasy located at 86 Bedford St.. During Prohibition, the entrance through an interior adjoining courtyard was used for it was both discreet and private. As per New York tradition, cops were on Chumley's payroll, and when they were about to raid the joint, they would call ahead. The bartender would then give the command "86 everybody," which meant that everyone should hightail it out the Bedford St. entrance for the cops were coming in through the courtyard.

Some people say the address of the bar is pure coincidence, and the term originated in rhyming slang used by workers so that the average customer didn't know what they were taking about. 86 rhymes with nix.

Another theory is that it originated with the number codes developed by soda fountain clerks. 86 was the password indicating they were out of an item. These codes were extensive, such as a 98 from one soda popper to another meant, "the assistant manager is on the prowl so watch yourself."

Some say 86 originated at Delmonico's Restaurant in New York City. Number 86 on their menu was steak and the most popular item. It often sold out. From there 86 became shorthand for being out of an item.

Or it originated in soup kitchens and breadlines of the Great Depression. The standard cauldron would hold 85 cups of soup. Thus the 86th person was out of luck.

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I've worked in a number of restaurants. In all cases the term was used to get rid of something. Normally a food item but sometimes custormers. It never meant that we were out of something. It was always in the context of disposing of one thing or another, as in, "should I 86 it?". To say it is used to say they are "out" of something is incorrect. 86 means to toss something.

Posted on 12/24/2008 at 8:12:56 PM

Interesting article, I hadn't heard of the term 86 before reading this post.

Posted on 11/16/2007 at 6:11:00 AM

Very interesting article. I used to use the term "86'd" all the time.

Posted on 04/24/2007 at 10:04:00 AM

I like it!

Posted on 04/03/2007 at 2:04:00 PM

I vote for the Chumley's theory. Not a bad place to have some beer too.

Posted on 04/01/2007 at 9:04:00 PM

I never heard this term. Thanks for sharing.

Posted on 03/27/2007 at 11:03:00 AM

Great idea! i never questioned that term but i use it all the time. Check out my article on the restaurant business...you'll laugh. :)

Posted on 03/26/2007 at 3:03:00 PM

As a day time bartender, we had cards that said "Your 86'd" on them. Great to read this here.

Posted on 03/26/2007 at 3:03:00 PM

This was pretty interesting. I never new there were so many theorys about the term '86'. Good job.

Posted on 03/26/2007 at 2:03:00 PM

lol

Posted on 03/26/2007 at 1:03:00 PM

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