Reporter Recounts Jerry Falwell Interview

Falwell's Denunciation of a Young TV Reporter a Great Moment

By Todd Epp, published May 15, 2007
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Moral Majority leader Rev. Jerry Falwell died earlier today. My condolences to his family and friends.

Back in May 1981, Rev. Falwell came to Topeka, KS to stage a large rally on the steps of the State Capitol. I was a student reporter for KTWU-TV, the public TV station in town at the time.

Somehow, we snagged an interview with Rev. Falwell. Sandra Johnson, one of the station's full time producer/reporters and host of the station's black community program, and myself interviewed Rev. Falwell early that morning in his hotel room. Rev. Falwell's press secretary was none other than now well known conservative columnist Cal Thomas.

The interview did not go well. Rev. Falwell didn't like our questions. He and Cal didn't like the fact that as part of our special on his visit, we were going to have a panel discussion with some local clergy about Falwell and his conservative religious movement. We were to have a Catholic, a Mennonite, and a Baptist on the panel.

Thomas and Rev. Falwell called our questions biased and that we were a "bush league" operation by having on the other ministers. A shouting match broke out between Thomas and Jerry Cullen, our director and videographer. We also managed to get part of that on tape.

At the large rally that spring day, towards the end of the rally, Rev. Falwell announced to the probably 20,000 or so assembled on the capitol grounds to "boycott KTWU's biased TV program about me and complain about Jerry Cullen, Todd Epp, and Sandra Johnson."

I was standing on the Statehouse grounds when Rev. Falwell said this and it was pretty obvious I was with KTWU as I was standing there in a suit with a microphone by one of our minicams with a big KTWU/Channel 11 logo on it.

While it was scary to have such a powerful man call you out so publicly, it was also exhilarating, as, admittedly, I didn't like Jerry too much before the interview and even less afterward.

Reporter Recounts Jerry Falwell Interview

Jerry Falwell, conservative religious activist.

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Takeaways
  • In May 1981, with his popularity high, Moral Majority leader Jerry Falwell visited Topeka, KS.
  • KTWU-TV, the local public TV station, produced a special that evening.
  • Rev. Falwell denounced KTWU's program from the steps of the Kansas Capitol.
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Anon: So first, poeple were saying "Don;t point figures at someone who can't defend himself." I say, Jerry did it so someone can do it back. Now some one is saying "Did you even know him?" So are you claiming Jerry only criticized those he personally knew? That is silly. He, as a public figure, can be criticized--even if I don't know him, because he did it to others.

Posted on 05/19/2007 at 8:05:00 PM

 
He did have a large impact on America and for all of you who say bad things about him...Did you even know him?? I didnt think so. He was an amazing Leader, Pastor, Friend, and Chancellor!! He will NEVER be forgotten. Heaven welcomed him with open arms!!

Posted on 05/18/2007 at 10:05:00 AM

 
I cringed at your title. I thought one of the requirements for AC's articles was that they exhibit proper grammar. Your article wasn't particularly well written, nor timely for that manner. You presented merely a "brush with greatness" tale; I for one was not impressed.

Posted on 05/17/2007 at 12:05:00 AM

 
A detractor of yours took issue with your posting this article AFTER Falwell's death, as Falwell cannot now refute your position, but i believe that is an invalid issue. Falwell's death made him news again, therefore anecdotal evidence is relative. I'm sorry the man is dead, but I'm not sorry we'll not hear his bigotry any longer, but some other fool will rise to the occassion - rest assured. Anyway, good article Todd. Keep it up Man!

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 1:05:00 PM

 
Wow. Tell you what, why not follow this story up with one where you point out all the times Falwell made comments about the dead (the ones who could not defend themselves against him). How about all the dead he claimed where burning in hell because they were Jews. How about Martin Luther King, whom he claimed was a socialist when he was alive but years later claimed to support? Falwell was no prophet. He was no more a saint than any other believer. He did and said things that were hateful in the name of his beliefs. His words were those of a faulty human, not directly from Jesus' mouth. He can be criticized. This story is balanced and appropriate. After all, isn't he lving at the side of God now in paradise? I think it is more likely he is very surprised, humble, and contrite at this moment.

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 1:05:00 PM

 
My perosnal responmse to the passing of Jerry Falwell was "Thank GOD"! With any luck, Al Sharpton and James Dobson will be next. I'm sure the fires are warm enough for all three.

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 12:05:00 PM

 
It's called a news peg, fellow babies. Before Rev. Falwell died, I doubt there would be too much interest in my encounter with him. Monday my story was not very newsworthy. Tuesday it was. I also hadn't thought much about Rev. Falwell in the past decade or so and his death reminded me of this encounter.

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 10:05:00 AM

 
I agree with another commenter that asks why the author waited until Falwell couldn't respond to write this. It reminds me of the stories Hillary Clinton tells about people who adored her to a truly unbelievable degree. Unfortunately they are dead, so they can't refute her account of their adoration.

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 10:05:00 AM

 
Interesting that this happened 26 years ago but you wait till the man is dead and cannot refute your account of it. Why is that?

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 10:05:00 AM

 
It's always great to be a part of history.... Thanks for sharing your experience....

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 9:05:00 AM

 
I feel sympathy for his family because of the fact he was a father and a husband. I know losing someone so quick like that can be hard. However, I think Falwell spoke with hatered. I watched the interview that day he blamed homosexuals for the attacks on 9-11. I was disgusted. I am a lesbian and it gets sick and tiring of many using some peoples wrong doings as a way to shame and blame it on sexual orientation. Some need to stop making gays and lesbians an easy scape goat for those who choose not to make the world a better place.

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 8:05:00 AM

 
Fellow babies: Thanks for discussion about my article. I tried to balance my own views about Rev. Falwell with what I think is an interesting look into how he operated coupled with his passing. I wish him, his family, or his supporters no ill will and hope people respect his passing. Agree or disagree with Rev. Falwell (and I would be in the disagree camp), he had a large impact on American politics and society.

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 8:05:00 AM

 
While I despise the positions that Falwell espoused, not to mention his frequent hypocrisy and tendency to condemn anyone who disagreed with him, or whose lifestyle he didn't like (apparently he missed Jesus's words about not judging others, and also believed he spoke for God, which was misguided at best), I find the timing of the content of this article appropriate. Hey, y'all, it's not like he's getting 10 grand for it! And the author, while admitting his personal feelings, nevertheless treated Falwell's passing with respect, which is probably more than I could have done. Kudos, Todd, for an interesting and well-written perspective on a very public personality.

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 8:05:00 AM

 
I enjoyed your article. It is normal for people to recall memories of those who have passed and to share emotions about those memories. It is a process we use to cope with the news of a loss. You may not have been related to the man, but - he obviously impacted an important part of your life. Good Job.

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 5:05:00 AM

 
Atr first I wasn't going to read this article, thinking "how could you seek to gain recognition at a time like this. But I see how you did it, and I was pleasantly surprised to see you were level-headed about the article, through and through, even showing proper respect. Kudos.

Posted on 05/16/2007 at 4:05:00 AM

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