A Trip to the US Embassy in Bangkok and a Talk with Unhappy Americans

More and More Americans Are Choosing to Leave the US Permanently and Settle Overseas

By Fabletoo, published Nov 14, 2007
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Yesterday, I fell into a surprising conversation with a group of Americans who no longer live in the US. Their negative opinions about the country they used to call 'home' surprised me somewhat, especially as it took place in the waiting room of the US Embassy in Bangkok. I had to make a trip to the American Embassy to get new pages added to my passport. I need to take a trip out of the country next week and my passport was almost full of visas. As my trip would require 2 blank pages for the huge visas both Thailand and Cambodia put in passports, I wouldn't be able to leave the country and come back in without new pages.

No problem though. The US Embassy adds pages for free while you wait, which is a nice little service, so I took the sky train down there yesterday afternoon. A friend had told me it would take about an hour, but that there was a nice waiting room with a big screen TV showing the news, so not a great hardship either.

I arrived at 1pm, dutifully filled in the form requesting extra pages, handed that in with my passport and settled down to wait. A few minutes went by then a man sat down beside me. I tend to be on the overly friendly side and also easily bored (the big screen TV just wasn't doing it for me) so I started to talk to him. Turns out he's lived in Thailand for 16 years, has a Thai wife and daughter and, although American, hates the US and "would never live there again if you paid me."

Now you might think from this that's just one disgruntled American, so what happened next surprised me. Before I could properly answer him, another man sitting behind us said "Yeah buddy, me too. Last time I went back to America was 3 years ago and that was for a funeral. If the guy hadn't died, I wouldn't have gone back then either."

Within a couple of minutes another man and a woman had joined in and, right there in the US Embassy waiting room, we had an entire group discussion about what's wrong with America, how it's a country in decline, and although everybody agreed they were proud to be American, none of them ever planned on living there again.

Takeaways
  • America is spending $300 million a day in Iraq, money borrowed from other countries.
  • A number of Americans living outside the US have no intention of ever returning to live in the US.
  • Almost 25% of Americans living in America do not have health insurance.
Did You Know?
The US embassy in Bangkok allows US citizens to have extra pages added to their passports at no charge.
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Lynne, that's the problem - most Americans never leave the country so they have no clue what other countries have to offer. And all my article was doing was mentioning what other Americans had said at the embassy about not wanting to go back to the US to live. Oh and the American men who marry Thai women are the same as the men you mentioned who marry Japanese women. For the most part, not particularly great catches. Most Western women wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole :-)

Posted on 12/08/2007 at 2:12:00 AM

 
P.S. I'm sorry this article has such a low rating. What you stated was merely what Americans overseas really think about the US. It was rampant in Japan too. Seems like readers are taking it too personally. Maybe they should travel before judging your words.

Posted on 12/07/2007 at 10:12:00 PM

 
After living in Japan for 4 years, I was bummed out upon returning to America, mostly because of how rude people are here compared to Japan. It hit me smack in the face when I arrived at San Francisco International and saw workers yelling at people, especially the Japanese peeps going through customs who didn't understand what the hell they were screaming about (it was to move quicker through the line). Americans and everyone else for that matter were treated with nothing but respect in Japan. With that said, I didn't care for the American men who decided to marry Japanese citizens. They were almost all aggressive, egotistical elitists and wouldn't have had many friends back in the US because of their demeanor, which was somehow ignored by Japanese nationals. Strange.

Posted on 12/07/2007 at 10:12:00 PM

 
Yep. Sometimes looking from the outside in shows a whole different picture. Good article.

Posted on 12/04/2007 at 9:12:00 PM

 
dragonfly, it takes 15 years to become a Thai citizen, most of them had Thai residency though, which you can apply for after 3 years.

Posted on 12/01/2007 at 4:12:00 PM

 
Those people must not hate their homeland too much since they haven't given up their US citizenship to become Thailand citizens.

Posted on 12/01/2007 at 3:12:00 PM

 
I believe that if I could, I would move to another country, mainly for the reasons the others in your article mentioned.

Posted on 11/29/2007 at 7:11:00 PM

 
I love the great USA. However, I do agree that things have went way down hill since Bush was put into office. Clinton did get us out of a huge debt and then we ended up well over our head in debt when Bush came back. I think once Bush is out of office things will get better. However, I believe I would have to stay in the great USA. Heck, the Mexicans don't deem to mind!

Posted on 11/28/2007 at 5:11:00 PM

 
By the way, I found this article balanced. I don't know why some take such offence when all you did was present the views of Americans you met at the US Embassy. Sophie

Posted on 11/27/2007 at 2:11:00 PM

 
I'm surprised that American expats would rather not return to their country. But then, I found that this was true in the UK too. Almost every American expat I met while at home said the same thing: "I don't want to go back to America". Sophie

Posted on 11/27/2007 at 2:11:00 PM

 
You said America was "almost universally loved under Clinton". If you know America hating is not new, then are you saying it took a hiatus in the 90s? Becuase that's not true either. And I'm not picking a "stupid net fight". I'm debating you.

Posted on 11/26/2007 at 7:11:00 PM

 
Mark, I'm guessing you can't read? When have I ever said this was a new thing? Anyway, I'm not going to get into some stupid net fight with somebody who obviously likes to start them and continue them. Have more important things to do. Thanks.

Posted on 11/26/2007 at 7:11:00 PM

 
I know Bush is hated around the world. I know America is, too. But this isn't a new thing. And, as you clearly think it is, I question the veracity of your perspective. I voted for Clinton twice, by the way. He was neither universally loved here, nor abroad. The fact that Clinton is more loved by non-Americans than Bush is hardly a remarkable feat. I'm sure every American President of the last 100 years or more is/was more loved than Bush. America bashing didn't begin in 2000 and it won't end in 2009.

Posted on 11/26/2007 at 7:11:00 PM

 
Mark, you obviously haven't been to Thailand. Every time I mention Bush EVERY Thai I've ever met says "Oh I love Clinton sooooo much". Bush is hated all over the world. Clinton was admired by many and loved by most because he made Americans liked. Now the rest of the world hates Americans. You should leave the country sometime!

Posted on 11/26/2007 at 6:11:00 PM

 
America was not "almost universally loved under Bill Clinton". What a preposterous statement. This kind of hyperbolic baloney and anecdotal condemnation serves nobody.

Posted on 11/26/2007 at 1:11:00 PM

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