Lost in Time

What Does Daniel's Experiment Mean ?

By ptosis, published Feb 16, 2008
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Daniel has Regina launch a small missile with a payload of a digital clock from the freighter to the island. Regina counts down 20 seconds for the missile to land on the island according to her observations. After a long delay, the missile finally lands for the island observers and Daniel is worried that one clock is slower than the other by a half hour.

Many Losties are posting questions as to why in, 'The Economist', islanders are able to communicate in real-time with the freighter crew yet a missile is delayed for island observers. The clue to the answer is in the name of the mysterious man on the freighter who is called Minkowski. The helicopter pilot Frank warns Daniel to, "... hang up the phone if Minkowski answers ..." [instead of Regina]

'Analyzing Popular Lost Theories', describes how many of the names are referencing real people such as John Locke and Mikhail Bakunin the Russian anarchist.

The real Hermann Minkowski died in 1909 and developed a 4D world called Minkowski space-time where space and time are joined together. Space-time is curved, but just like a small triangle drawn on a huge globe, from up close is appears flat as if an ordinary triangle whose three angle's would add up to 180 degrees.

It appears that the transition from off-island to on-island has an event horizon that dilates time can be explained by the Minokoski diagram that describes a shear instead of a rotation of space-time.

[In] "Einstein Principle of Relativity, all observers, regardless of their motions, must measure the speed of light to be the same constant ... " [1] Referring to a Minkowski diagram, "For observer A.. all events happening simultaneously " [2]

The test missile with the clock payload is slowly sailing through the air, compared to electromagnetic waves that travel near the speed of light. which is why the freighter people and the islanders are able to communicate with each other in real time. For island observers, it takes minutes for the missile to land but for freighter observer Regina, the missile landed in twenty seconds. Whose observation is "correct' makes no sense in Daniel's experiment.

In season 2, episode 23, "Live Together, Die Alone", Desmond was unable to sail away from the island and bewailed that "We are stuck in a bloody snow globe." Daniel warns the helicopter pilot, Frank, to take the same exact heading with severe gravity in his voice. Time dilation, a lack of simultaneous events between observers, a contraction distance in the direction of near light speeds brings a Pandora's box of paradoxes to ponder over.

Sayid discovers Ben's multiple ID papers worldwide, showing that Ben has been off island numerous times. This could perhaps explained why Ben has aged and the character played by Richard Alpert, a native of the island has not aged at all. The island is on it's on time reference and location. Could a closed time like curve, (time machine), on the Lost Island explain Dharma's polar bear ending up becoming a fossil?

What does it mean to be the Oceanic Six? Jack, Kate, Jin, Jun, Hugo, and Sayid.[3] Ben is off-island again and Daniel is a befuddled man who in need of a caretaker. Who else has escaped from the island?

Sources:
  1. Rob Salgado, "The Einstein-Minkowski Spacetime: Introducing the Light Cone" phy.syr.edu
  2. wikipedia, Minkowski Time Dilation wikipedia
  3. Pam Gaulin,Who Are the Oceanic 6 on ABC's Lost? associated content
  4. ptosis, Analyzing Popular Lost Theories associated content
  5. ptosis, Unlocking the Meaning of Lost associated content
  6. ptosis, Getting Lost associated content
  7. wikipedia, Hermann_Minkowski wikipedia
  8. wikipedia, Manifold wikipedia
  9. wikipedia "Special Relativity" Answers
  10. lostpedia, The Economist/Theories lostpedia
  11. lostpedia, Snow globe lostpedia


Lost in Time
Lost in Time

Minkowski Diagram Plane & Cone

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Takeaways
  • "We are stuck in a bloody snow globe." - Desmond
  • "If Minkowski answers - hang up." - Frank
  • The Minokoski diagram describes a shear instead of a a rotation of spacetime.
Did You Know?
GOTO www.um.es/fem/Fislets/CD/applets/javadoc/index.html for Interactive Time Dilation Lorentz Contraction.
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WOW...this is fabulous work !!!!!

Posted on 02/22/2008 at 8:02:57 AM

 
I like this. I don't do a lot of surfing the 'theories and spoilers' sites because I like to keep a lot of the 'joy of the reveal' for myself, but I'd thought a little about the names ("Lost" is big on famous names) and various theories. I usually err on the side of underestimating what the writers think we'll follow (Such faith in my fellow man, eh?). Nice links and nice summary. I'm glad I got this link.

Posted on 02/20/2008 at 8:02:43 AM

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2VMO7pcWhg This is way better explains it - no sound just watch

Posted on 02/20/2008 at 12:02:57 AM

 
excellent explaination....so you have to think then...this slower passage of time has something to do with the fact that women cannot carry babies to term on the island right? and if Ben knows this...why hasn't he told anyone about it? Especially Juliet...who was brought there specifically to figure out how to save the mothers. You'd think that bit of information would come in handy when trying to solve the problem.

Posted on 02/19/2008 at 8:02:27 AM

 
Excellent explanation! I love it!

Posted on 02/19/2008 at 4:02:10 AM

 
Willow: From Ref#3, page 1

Posted on 02/18/2008 at 9:02:03 PM

 
How do you know that Jin and Sun are off the island? They haven't revealed all of the Oceanic 6 yet.

Posted on 02/17/2008 at 11:02:23 AM

 
Grrrrr.

Posted on 02/16/2008 at 11:02:13 PM

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