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When Will Hip Hop Re-Grow Up?

Is Hip Hop and R&B Dead or Just Immature?

By Shamontiel, published Apr 10, 2008
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When did the grown men disappear from Hip Hop and R&B? Growing up, I listened to groups like Public Enemy, Ice Cube, Big Daddy Kane, and so forth who discussed issues like police corruption, racism, sexism, self-respect, safe sex, and uplifting the Black community within their music. Now I turn on Hip Hop stations and hear the same formula: gold/platinum chains and teeth, hoes, bitches, guns, killing, and partying. Now while I will proudly challenge you to a Soulja Boy dance-off and know that Afrika Bambataa and Kool Herc were making party music back in the late 70s and early 80s, why did dance music have to become so vulgar? Nowadays, songs with excellent beats make it almost mandatory for women to be called out of their name, regardless of whether they deserved the title or not, and somewhere along the line, there had to be a line about being affiliated with some gang, crew, or shooting someone. Why? When did the Hip Hop community decide that we didn't have anything else to talk about?

We can blame it on record labels, but the fact of the matter is no record label is taking a whip to anybody's backs and making the stereotypes come flying out of these rappers' mouths. Record labels want to make money just like rappers do, and when they see that phenomenal and intelligent albums like Jay-Z's "Kingdom Come" made less money than Jay-Z's "American Gangster" album, that tells them that stereotypes sell. So what do they ask for? More ignorant, stereotypical music. I hear people complain that the majority of negative music is being purchased by white people who already believe that black people are negative. However, when I walk into a predominantly black club, I'm more likely to hear Lil' Wayne rapping about licking lollipops than I am to hear a Lupe Fiasco track debating record labels who want him to "Dumb It Down." So who is really buying the music?

When Will Hip Hop Re-Grow Up?
When Will Hip Hop Re-Grow Up?

Rakim, Hip Hop Legend (Hip Hop Then)

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Did You Know?
On Jay Z's "Kingdom Come," he discussed Hurricane Katrina, losing a nephew, relationships, break-ups, ownership, and investing money. However, "Rolling Stone" magazine considered "American Gangster," a CD about street life, to be a better album.
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Nice article!

Posted on 05/18/2008 at 7:05:06 PM

 
For me, R&B is dead. I grow up on Barry White, Gladys Knight, Isaac Hayes etc. even rap music was interesting by in the day, but neither does nothing for me today. thankfully there are other genres and old schoolers of music still doing their thing or i wouldn't have a thing to listen to.

Posted on 05/17/2008 at 6:05:03 PM

 
...the song "Old School," Lyfe Jennings represents. Lyfe sings about the shame in people blowing up kids in buildings, credit card debt, gas prices going up, and issues that grown-ups trying to make it go through, and then here comes Snoop. For the life of me, I don't understand the appeal of this dude's rapping. If you ask him to create a freestyle without spelling his name and calling women out of their names, he'd barely have anything to talk about, and it bothers me because in interviews, Snoop seems like a really intelligent dude. However, did he even LISTEN to "Old School" before he did his freestyle? Snoop ruined the whole song talking about how valuable his car is, how somebody shouldn't spill crumbs in it, and volunteering to offer weed. Ugh! That really irritates me to dumb down an intelligent song like "Old School" with a bunch of nonsense."

Posted on 05/17/2008 at 8:05:26 AM

 
Jesse, I don't even need the music to be conscious. I just need it to have some form of purpose. You know, I don't think I made this clear in the article, but I love the "Lollipop" song. I thought it was surprising to hear a male rapper talk about guys not holding up their ends in a relationship, and that "refund" line cracks me up everytime. I blast that song proudly, and I do dig some of Lil' Wayne's raps. I know you didn't comment on that, but I want to make that clear because I'm getting way more visits from quiet observers when I look at my page views. I will absolutely blast the "Get Silly" song because I like the dance and the energy of it. My issue is when I hear a really intelligent song, and it's ruined by somebody rapping about nothing. Prime example of an Amazon review I just completed: "Cons: The older I get, the more aggravated I get with folks rapping about NOTHING. Old school rap used to really talk about issues in the community, in politics, and with substance, so on t

Posted on 05/17/2008 at 8:05:06 AM

 
Thanks for your article, Shamontiel. There is so much good conscious hip hop screaming out of every major city these days, it is a shame that we hear the same old tired, offensive crap on most of the airwaves, mass media, idiot box, etc. A good read. Best~Jesse

Posted on 05/17/2008 at 4:05:44 AM

 
Mmog37, okay, I see where you're going. I wouldn't say any one product overpowers anything else. Hell, I even switch up brands on sunflower seeds, so never mind an electronic appliance. As for my comments, you're the first person to say that, but I've always found the comments area interesting. The feedback keeps me on my toes!

Posted on 04/21/2008 at 12:04:36 PM

 
hahah, I see where you were going...but my man said he ran his entire empire of off HP...which is a bit different from the examples you give...and I know it was a stretch but I only point it out as one of those seemingly insignificant things that have led to hip hop being so commercial that the only focus is doing what makes the money...to heck what happens to the people who live off of their every word or move. BTW your comments section are always equally as interesting as your articles ;-)

Posted on 04/21/2008 at 11:04:26 AM

 
Hi A.M. Morgan. I saw your Linked In request. I'll accept it now. I didn't know who you were before. By the way, if any of you are really into hip hop, PLEASE pick up the latest edition of VIBE magazine with Lil' Wayne on the cover. It has an interesting article on him and his drug intake and FINALLY an article that includes Rakim and the Five Percenters. I loved this era of hip hop. Please check out the Five Percenter article. There is also an interesting interview with Hillary Clinton. I'm all about Obama, but still, it's interesting that she wants to do away with the crack/cocaine law that I mentioned within this article but her husband was the one who signed it. Actually, a gang of topics I covered in this article are throughout the magazine. It's like we were reading each others' minds. I read it a couple days after I wrote this, I believe.

Posted on 04/18/2008 at 3:04:29 PM

 
Great article. Definitely tired of the same old recycled topics in some of mainstream hip hop.

Posted on 04/18/2008 at 1:04:16 PM

 
Excellent point about who's making the most money. I didn't really think about that, but you're right. Em is actually one of my favorites too and I agree that his success isn't because he's white. Ice Cube and L are perfect examples of the fact that you don't have to be negative to sell records, as are the others you mentioned.

Posted on 04/15/2008 at 2:04:35 PM

 
Mmog37, I find it interesting that your son asked what happened to hip hop. When I went to see Chris Rock live, Whodini was the opening act, and they did a skit when they did a song (I believe it was "Friends") and then one of the members said, "Now how did we go from songs like Whodini's to I'm-a-shoot-a-nigga-rob-and-kill-this-bitch" and blah blah. I probably misquoted the latter part, but it was the same message. Even older artists are wondering what in the world happened to hip hop. I don't think it's accidental that deejay legends are only doing positive hip hop music. You don't see Kid Capri on that-bitch-needs-to-be-slapped songs. I can't recall seeing Dougie Fresh beatboxing to I'm-a-shoot-your-mother cuts. Same goes for D.J. Jazzy Jeff and the late Jam Master Jay. Did you notice that?

Posted on 04/12/2008 at 5:04:03 PM

 
...suits at the time. I don't knock them for getting investment dollars. I just don't want to hear about drug deals when instead Jay-Z was smooching with his girlfriend on a boat with sandals on. I could see him talking about drug dealing on "Reasonable Doubt," but (10?) albums later, it just sounds retarded to me.

Posted on 04/12/2008 at 5:04:51 PM

 
Mmog37, all right, I'm going to have to disagree with you a little there in regards to Jay-Z promoting HP computers. For example, I love my HP Photosmart R927 digital camera. If someone asked me right now to do a commercial for HP, I'm on it! But I went to a book event, forgot my computer at home, and ended up with a throwaway camera. Does that make me less dedicated to HP? I live and breathe Baby Phat jeans because they fit my bottom half better, but I have a pair of LA Blues jeans that beat the hell out of every single BP jeans that I own, as well as my favorite Silver and Apple Bottom jeans. Does that mean I couldn't promote Baby Phat? You get where I'm going with this. A person can promote and like a product without banning everything else from their existence. I know you don't think Diddy ONLY wears Sean John, do you? The only two people I believe ALWAYS have on their product are Russell Simmons with Phat Farm and Jordan. But when Jordan throws on a suit, Jordan was NOT making sui

Posted on 04/12/2008 at 5:04:46 PM

 
You are right Shamontiel, none of the legends the legends were preaching negativity, I recently was having a nostalgic moment and was checking out all of the old hip hop songs on youtube, my children (all in their teens) who have grown up not listening to secular hip hop asked me what happened...they noticed that in most of the old songs they were warning of the use of drugs, and talking about having fun and enjoying life... I didn't have an answer for them...maybe what we are seeing is just a true reflection of what is going on, it's all about the dollar bill...maybe that's why you have rappers like Jayz taking 10+ million dollars from hp to say that he runs his hip hop empire on hp computers...but then be seen in public with his boo working on an Apple laptop.....go figure. Maybe we need to brush the dust off of Chris Rock's old movie CB4...(by the way like you...I'm tired of hearing brothas talking about killing other brothas...I won't even go there about sistas in the videos LO

Posted on 04/12/2008 at 1:04:17 PM

 
Business sense gets you long money. I wonder if 50 Cent got "stanky rich" because of investments or rap. That one I can only assume, but I can even respect an artist who may not be making the most positive music but then goes on to make positive moves. Lil' Wayne and David Banner did a great job of supporting Hurricane Katrina. Diddy and Jay gave a million. But I'm with Mos. When it comes to really showing a person's face in a bad situation, there are few and far between. Mos, Ice Cube, and Salt n' Pepa (I hear Bun B too) were the only artists showing up for the Jena 6 rally. But let it be the BET/MTV awards, and rappers will come out in droves with chains flashing brighter than the Olympic center.

Posted on 04/11/2008 at 11:04:20 PM

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