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No Snitching! Keep Criminals on the Streets!

Should Busta Rhymes Tell Who Izzy's Killer Is?

By Shamontiel, published Apr 19, 2008
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In 2006, Busta Rhymes was coming back on the music scene (not just on someone's remix) to videotape the popular song "Touch It (Remix)." While at the studio with a line-up of other popular guest-starring celebrites (Mary J. Blige, DMX, Missy Elliot, Papoose, Rah Digga, Sean Paul, and Lloyd Banks), approximately 500 other people were on set when someone murdered Busta Rhymes' longtime friend and bodyguard Israel "Izzy" Ramirez, a 29-year-old father of three. Busta Rhymes to this day still refuses to speak to police officers about the shooting, even though he was allegedly standing next to Izzy. The NYPD was pissed, and even threatening to have a grand jury subpoena would not make Busta Rhymes budge on opening his mouth. The NYPD decided to fight back by making Busta Rhymes seem like a monster. Busta Rhymes, who is usually described as a positive, good person, has had legal trouble several times since then. A prime example would be Busta Rhymes being locked up for driving on a suspended license, regardless of the fact that his car would've been towed if it was not moved to the other side of the street before 6:00 am and his driver had gone home for the night. Have all of these incidents happened because Busta Rhymes is under extreme pressure from Izzy's family to tell who the gunman is (who allegedly fled the scene in rapper Tony Yayo's car), punish a murderer, and to appease the streets, who have a no-snitching policy? If Busta Rhymes says who the killer is, a large part of his fanbase may lose respect for him, but with Izzy being his loyal friend, would Izzy have wanted him to tell? Or would Izzy believe in the no-snitching policy as well that's so prominent in the streets?

No Snitching! Keep Criminals on the Streets!

Should we stop snitching or selectively snitch?

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Takeaways
  • Busta Rhymes refuses to talk even with the threat of a grand jury subpoena.
  • The Black Panthers were disbanded because of snitches.
  • Civil Rights leaders dealt with internal spies for the FBI.
Did You Know?
KRS One, a popular underground rapper, is releasing a "Self Construction" album. Nelly, his previous rival, Styles P, Rah Digga, Redman, Method Man, Talib Kweli, and Busta Rhymes will rap with KRS One.
Resources
  • VIBE magazine, April 2008 issue
Comments
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Deez, I have no idea why AC is not sending me alerts saying I have new comments, so sorry about the delay in my responses. I see you have commented on several articles. As for cops snitching on cops, I see it in movies all the time, but I can't even begin to comment on that. I wish that it was never a matter of officers doing things outside of their legal positions, but I can almost guarantee you there are. However, I can speak for the no-snitching policy of the streets. I was watching Martin Lawrence's "Run Tell Dat," and he was talking about how a weed dealer gave him something that messed up his system. Do you recall him dancing in the street with the officers surrounding him? He refused to tell on the weed man, and I scratched my head at that. If someone sells you some laced marijuana, and you could possibly die, why would you NOT tell on them? I just do not understand the current no-snitching policy.

Posted on 05/21/2008 at 11:05:54 AM

 
Great Article. Here is another viewpoint to think about. As an officer who depends on (sometimes with my own life) other officers and someone who knows that if I turn on one of my own I will be ostracized and left with no one to watch my back. Would I snitch on a fellow officer? Thank God I haven't been faced with that situation yet but I have seen other officers who have and it ain't pretty. I would like to think I would have the courage to snitch if I witnessed something criminal done by one of my own. It would be easy for me to sit here and say all criminals should be snitched on but personal safety and the safety of your family must be taken into account. You made me ponder what I would do with this one, Good Job.

Posted on 05/21/2008 at 12:05:47 AM

 
A.E., I respected the talents of both Biggie and Pac, and athough I didn't always agree with some of the things they did (hustling, watching a rape, etc.), I respected their artistry. However, as tangled up as Pac was with Suge's crew, I knew nobody would say a WORD about what happened with Pac. If Suge wasn't responsible for it, I knew he'd take care of it, but I'm pretty sure he was in on it. As for Biggie, same response. I think he had something to do with that too, but have you ever read "The Rise and Spectacular Fall of Death Row Records"? Death Row was crazy back in the day! That whole situation was so fuzzy because police officers regularly worked with the crew, so it got to the point where you wouldn't know who to tell. Suge's employees/officers or the other officers who got profits for NOT doing anything. Once again, snitching gone awry.

Posted on 04/29/2008 at 8:04:51 PM

 
I hate that this happens today. Crime will only get worse, not better. I was a big fan of Notorious B.I.G. when I was younger and I was extremely upset when he was killed.

Posted on 04/29/2008 at 8:04:44 PM

 
Justice Lives Not, I'm glad you enjoyed the article and can understand where I was going with it. The commenter below came out of nowhere calling me racist because I support the Black Panthers, but he doesn't seem to understand that groups like the Black Panthers would not have had to be formed if Civil Rights leaders weren't being arrested, being bitten by dogs, sprayed with hoses, and so forth just for wanting equal rights. The Black community NEEDED the Black Panthers. Hell, the New Black Panthers have been a great support to the Jena 6 now, and this is decades later. When the Black Panthers were separated, this is when gangs became prominent. The government pulled that group apart and made people who used to be united go at each other. With that said, yeah, Justice, supporting someone who is being negative and who couldn't give a damn about those around them a long as they get paid, I can't respect that. I'm concerned with all races be

Posted on 04/22/2008 at 6:04:58 PM

 
Back in my area, we had a no snitch credo of our own: "Snitches get Stitches", which I learned off the many bikers and thugs I hung around as a youth. Many of them have been to Brushy Mountain, and I am damn lucky I never went there myself. I love this article, Shamontiel. You clearly show how "no snitching" in the Black community has devolved from protecting the noble to include protecting scum. I have to say, the fact that you will not keep quiet over a murderer, rapist, or drug dealer says volumes about your character (and you are no racist, judging from what I read). You seem more concerned with the future of your race than anything, and that is commendable!

Posted on 04/22/2008 at 5:04:41 PM

 
...African slaves were not invited here. Read about the Middle Passage. It wasn't a cruise line. Slaveowners beat, drowned, and killed people into coming. America would not be nearly as rich and as established as it is without 400 years of free slave labor. Do your homework before you come back. As for welfare, I've never had to file for welfare. Contrary to your beliefs, not every Black person is on welfare. I just came home from work actually. Oh, and as for the trip to Africa, I'd LOVE to visit. I've been trying to get there for quite some time. I appreciate the offer, but I can pay for my own ticket when I do go. When I write about it, be sure to stop back through. Thanks!

Posted on 04/22/2008 at 4:04:21 PM

 
...they will be punished, but he and I both know he will lose a lot of his fanbase who lives and breathes off this dumb ass "no snitching" rule that isn't even the SAME. People who were told not to snitch before were trying to do something for the community, not kill, rob, and attack each other. Oh, and Momie, I've never made my opinions about police officers a secret, so you already know I'm torn with this one. Whereas I don't trust cops AT ALL, I don't appreciate having to protect someone who has zero concern about my future. It's backwards for someone to not want you to tell on them to go to prison but want YOU to go for them. I'll be damned if I go to prison for anything I didn't do.

Posted on 04/20/2008 at 9:04:01 AM

 
Mmog37, the crazy thing is that I can't even say that I think his fans would want to know who did it. The views on no snitching are such a contradiction. The same people who complain about why nobody has found Tupac or Biggie's killers are the ones who say "no snitching." Well, dayyum, Tupac got shot in Vegas (I believe). You can't tell me there weren't witnesses around. If people are really fans and worried about bringing justice to the forefront, somebody needs to start talking. But with Busta, then you hear about how he doesn't need to be telling. Busta has always been riding the line of being the party emcee or the street emcee. Although I'm relieved he got out of the pink flamingo vests and silver costumes, I like him dreads or no dreads. I appreciate songs like "I'll Do It All" and that song he did with Janet as much as I like "Dangerous" and "Where My Eyes Can See." I respect him as an artist, but I think he's in a tough spot. He may want to tell who killed his friend so he/she/

Posted on 04/20/2008 at 9:04:39 AM

 
as always you get my thinker going. My children and family members have all been given the speech. "I Will Tell!" if you are irresponsible in your choices and actions don't expect me to step in and protect you. I wonder what would have happened if one of the bullets missed and caught Busta...would his fans be out for justice...or would the "no snitching" rule be enough to console them.

Posted on 04/20/2008 at 12:04:10 AM

 
Wow, another good piece. Like you, I also have not been in this type of situation before. I'm not sure what I'd do. It may depend on the circumstances.

Posted on 04/19/2008 at 10:04:45 PM

 
Shawn, thank you for posting. I also agree with you that every situation is different. Whereas there are some situations that I understand why snitching is NOT an option, such as the Civil Rights Movement/Black Panthers/Harriet Tubman, there are others, such as the issue with Busta Rhymes, where I think it is more about self. It's kinda sad, but I wonder whether Busta Rhymes is not talking to make sure his career stay in tact or is it just trying to get over the loss of his friend. From the perspective of someone who DID have a very close friend of mine murdered, if I was there, I don't know how I would've responded. I've never been put in a situation where I had to tell on someone. Cops in my old neighborhood tended to blame everything on gang-related activity or drug-related activity and shrugged it off.

Posted on 04/19/2008 at 6:04:56 PM

 
Hey there, I really enjoyed reading through your article. You pointed to something that I never considered, that being Harriet Tubman turning a gun on someone who could have disrupted her ability to continue freeing slaves. Can't say as I blame here for that! Anyways, I'm indifferent regarding the whole snitching thing, and when I ask myself, what am I willing to sacrifice to make the streets a safer place, does that include the possibility of sacrificing those I love? The threat of retaliation can be quite intimidating, so I'm left thinking that each situation is simply unique forcing an individual into a position of making very tough decisions. Great Post! Wishing you a good day, Shawn.

Posted on 04/19/2008 at 6:04:12 PM

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