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Book Review: Jodi Picoult's "Change of Heart"

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Agnostic n. 1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly: one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god (source: Merriam Webster definition)

I grew up in a Baptist church. I attended my maternal grandmother's church every Sunday, and I enjoyed going to her church. I wasn't interested in going to hear about religion though. I just wanted to see Grandma Young pin a needle and ribbon on me without ever poking me in the chest, play Tic Tac Toe or Hangman with my older brother, and eat peppermint while I leaned on my mother's warm shoulder. But after the very beginning of church, I'd sit there skeptically, listen to people yell out "Hallelujah" and "Yes lawd," listen to the Bible being read, and hope that church was over soon. I'd also attended three other churches to celebrate my father being ordained, to Girl Scout functions, and to my paternal grandmother's church a couple of times. Out of all four churches, Trinity United Church of Christ was the only one that kept my attention, not because of the talk about religion but because of the history, truth, and inspirational sermons from Reverend Wright. However, I was never intrigued enough to voluntarily join a church after learning about slavery. There will never be a crime that I find more heinous than slavery. Not Jeffrey Dahmer. Not the killing of Emmett Till and James Byrd or the torture of Megan Williams. Not the slaying of Dr. King nor John F. Kennedy. In my mind, if there really was a God, then he/she/it surely hated African people to let them live through that kind of suffering for centuries.

An Agnostic Discusses the Death Penalty
An Agnostic Discusses the Death Penalty

Jodi Picoult's book "Change of Heart"

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Takeaways
  • An Agnostic is not an Atheist. While an Atheist believes religion is impossible, Agnostics wonder.
  • Jodi Picoult is a New York Times best-selling author.
  • Jodi Picoult also discussed heart surgery in another one of her novels, "My Sister's Keeper."
Did You Know?
I was strolling to the lakefront when listening to a debate from a rabbi about Gnostics, and a guy walked by me in a sweatshirt that said "Resurrection."
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Ok. The end.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 4:06:03 PM

 
Slaves prayed everyday to God. They honored him. They begged for help. Everybody who has something bad happen to them was not someone who didn't love God, but yet, look how they turned out. If there is a God, he's letting everybody else carry someone else's faults. If he has that much power and is so vain that he wants everybody to bow down to him all at once, that is a whole new line of arrogance, hence my lack of respect for God. Hope, honestly, what are you trying to gain from this conversation? I'm not budging on my opinion. You're not budging on yours. So now what? Can we just agree to disagree and let the conversation rest?

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 4:06:10 PM

 
Now, why isn't God coming to this world now and fixing all the problems we have created? Well, he gave us the earth and the choice, we did a bad choice, and we keep doing it. What is he supposed to do? He gave a way out and a promisse that He is going to come back and fix the entire world. Why did he not come yet? Because He is patiently waiting for more people to understand that He loves us, and because of His love there is balance, and without His love there is unbalance. He is not going to force us to love him. It is a choice.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 4:06:38 PM

 
And so for almost 2000 years men lived as they wanted, beggining to feel that the unbalance of the earth hurts. But then, man got so far away from what God had planned and all kinds of evil came out of man, that God decided to begin again with one family that loved God. Noah began a new generation but yet man kept thinking that outside God there was something better. So, God decided to choose a people, Israel, to fulfill his desire to save the entire world at the end and bring a new creation. God made himself man and showed what love was all about and that if anyone still wanted to love God and live with God there was a way, through Jesus Christ.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 4:06:25 PM

 
So man thought: Uh...let me see, maybe God is hiding something from me, maybe there is something better outside of God, let me give a try. So he did, and there was unbalance outside God. So God said: I told you, but I cannot force you to love me back. Go ahead, you got the entire Earth to live, multiple, try to be happy, I created this world for you, it is yours. But, without me there is not going to be a lot of balance.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 4:06:12 PM

 
This is the story I believe in: God decided to create man, to share his love with someone else. So He did. Placed man in a beautiful paradise, gave him a woman to have a companion, to make as much sex as they wanted, to eat, enjoy life and be happy. But God was not going to force man to love Him back, that would be like raping. So he left man an alternative. He said to man: Look, you were created to live with Me because I really like you and enjoy being with you but I leave you an alternative; anytime you don't want to live anymore with me you can eat this fruit and be free from me. But let me tell you a secret, if you eat the fruit it is not going to be paradise anymore, because I am the force that gives balance to everything in this earth and without me there will be a lot of unbalance.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 4:06:59 PM

 
Hope, I don't know what else to say to you. I don't care about God being happy with me because I'm Agnostic. Too many people who did honor God had horrible experiences throughout life for centuries and even now. But if that's what you believe, so be it.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 3:06:13 PM

 
I agree with you. Not all agnostics are bad people, not all atheists, not all communists and not all christians. Did religious people commite terrible crimes in the past? Yes. Is religion the way? I don't think so. Religion says: Do this, do that, and then God will be happy with you. I don't agree with religion at all.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 3:06:16 PM

 
First of all, Wikipedia is a user-written site, so they can put up whatever they like. I did not say that all atheists were wonderful people, but the Agnostics and Atheists I know are. And just an FYI, you're talking about another country. Now let's talk about the religious fanatics here, and how slaves were beaten because they didn't want to learn Christianity. And regardless of communism and China, I can think of one hardcore communist who was in the front of the march with me for the Jena 6. Not all Communists are evil people. You're feeding into a theory that the US keeps shoving down our throats.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 2:06:30 PM

 
Just a note: the ausence of religion does not transform a place into paradise. Wikipedia: "State atheism has been implemented in communist countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China, North Korea, and Communist Mongolia. In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an intrinsic part of communist ideology. Consequences of state atheism in these countries include active (and, sometimes, violent) opposition to religion, and persecution of religious institutions, leaders and believers. The Soviet Union had a long history of state atheism,[2] in which social success largely required individuals to proclaim atheism and stay away from churches; this attitude was especially militant under Stalin.[3][4][5] The Soviet Union imposed atheism over wide areas of its influence, including places like central Asia.[6] The only country to officially ban religion was Albania under Enver Hoxha.Poland under communist rule promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.[7]"-------

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 1:06:02 PM

 
Hope, the reason that religion is considered impolite is because people have such extreme views on it. Nobody justified slavery with the latest in fashion, so those comparisons aren't even accurate. Nobody flew through buildings and had wars over the new perfume. Nobody swears on a stack of Versace suits when convicted of a crime. Religion is a touchy subject because it always connects to touchy issues. But if you can't discuss the death penalty, and that was the main point of discussion in this article, then...you've expressed your views. I've read them. You've shared.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 1:06:42 PM

 
I really can't discuss death penalty leaving behind all my beliefs. I just think that it is interesting that all day long you and I are oppressed by companies trying to push on us their products, hollywood trying to push on us their lifestyles, magazines trying to push on us perfect bodies. What you should eat, dress, drink, do, think and so on. But when someone like me wants to talk about God, then that is unpolite or not part of this culture of respected people, and yet, all the time we are being seduced to buy or do things that we don't even care, just because there is a good advertisement team behind telling us to do so. And I am not even being paid to tell you anything. Just a thought for consideration...

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 12:06:35 PM

 
Hope, the primary difference between me and you is this. Even though I am Agnostic, I don't go around trying to convince other people to be Agnostic. My father is a Deacon, but you couldn't pay me to talk him out of his beliefs nor any of the rest of my family. It's not my style to try to make someone not believe in what they've convinced themselves is positive. I'll support anyone who believes in a cause that keeps them away from negativity, whether it's religion, politics, or even Hip Hop. Hip Hop has done a lot in the African American and Latina community to increase productivity. But what you must learn is that you have to respect the fact that not everybody thinks like you do and trying to convince them to will make them rebel even more. Just take it for what it's worth. God means zip to me, but I respect that he means everything to you. I can respect a difference of opinion, but it DOES aggravate me when people feel like their views are gold.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 12:06:16 PM

 
Hope, you don't bother me, but you are reading from the same script that I've heard for years. Remember, I spent many years in the church. If you love God, then love God. I don't. Period. Four hundred years of people being tortured, beaten, enslaved, and raped knocked that whole idea of "God is good" right out of my system. But actually, it never was there. If you are going to continue to try to make me love God, then you should probably make this your last post because it's not ever going to work. However, if you want to speak about the book or the death penalty, you are welcome to comment. Actually, you are welcome to comment regardless, but the topic of religion is trivial to me. However, those 10 people who I can think of have said they'll pray for me. I say instead to pray for someone who really needs it and who is not having any luck whatsoever from God--say those kids who were killed in Chicago just for walking down the street or blowing out candles on her cake.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 12:06:16 PM

 
Maybe those 10 people you love are praying for you and God decided to use me to tell you about how much He loves you. But if that bothers you, this is my last post.

Posted on 06/13/2008 at 12:06:03 PM

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