A Response to Elton John's Suggestion that Religion Should be Banned

Christians Must Ask If Their Message is Getting Out or Getting Lost

By Tad Cronn, published Dec 03, 2006
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Elton John made headlines this month when he suggested that organized religion should be banned because it makes people hate gays.

Such a call should be occasion for Christian introspection, not because it is issued by a world-renowned celebrity such as Sir Elton, who apparently has a record of histrionics against religion, journalists and others, but because we find ourselves at a cultural crossroads.

With momentum of the gay privileges movement apparently growing, the future of American culture is hanging in the balance, and people like John who have the ear of the media will have an inordinate sway over public opinion.

The question that should concern Christians, however, is how well have we articulated the message that it is the sin, not the sinner, that we oppose?

For there is nothing in Christianity that supports hatred of anybody. The phrase "for God so loved the world" means that anybody living in this world is loved by God. The New Testament also makes clear that everybody sins: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

Yet this doesn't mean that we are to be amoral null quantities. Christ's message was not one of "go along to get along": "If salt loses its taste, with what can it be seasoned? It is no longer good for anything but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot."

But the Christian message of loving confrontation gets lost in the secular world, partly because the irreligious resent being told when they're wrong, partly because Christians are humans who can get angry at some of the more blatant agendas of the gay privileges movement, and partly because the church itself falls short of its own standards.

What moral ground can we Christians stand on when we see some churches endorsing gay marriages and actively homosexual clergy? The Catholic Church's allowing gay clergy to run rampant and prey on children is a travesty that has brought worldwide shame to God's people. The hypocrisy of prominent ministers like Ted Haggard who live double lives does grave injury to the cause of righteousness.

A Response to Elton John's Suggestion that Religion Should be Banned

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Takeaways
  • Christians must bear a message of loving confrontation.
  • The future of American culture is hanging in the balance.
  • There is a strong streak of anti-religion in the homosexual political agenda.
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Overall, I'd still have to say that Christians are far more pushy about their beliefs. I've never tried to convert someone and make them gay and no one had to convert me. Yet the Christians are still knocking on my door... hmm. I must not be spraying on enough of that Jesus-Freak repellant I bought.

Posted on 07/13/2007 at 12:07:00 AM

 
I agree with you that gays have an agenda. As a Christian, I know that we have one too. The Bible is for people who want to be saved or are saved. You cannot judge sinners by it. If they have not accepted Christ, they are doing by nature what their father (you know who I mean) wants them to do. They cannot rise above their master. As for the hatred that Christians have dealt to gays. We have to repent. That simple. God loves people though he hates the sin. Personally, I am so sick of hearing about who is sleeping with whom, that I don't care. It is not in my bedroom, and I do not have to face my maker for them. The bottom line is that neither group wins in points in the PR department, because both have the ALL or Nothing mentality. Problem. I have gay friends, but none of them claim to be Christians. That is my only thing when people claim to be Christians, when it is clear from NEW TESTAMENT teaching that it is sin.

Posted on 07/12/2007 at 2:07:00 PM

 
From my personal experience, it is we atheists who are far more persecuted than Christians although none of us have driven any airplanes into skyscrapers. Atheists are also more supportive of our troops than these homophobic Christians who show nothing but disrepect with their hateful "God bless the IED's" demonstrations.

Posted on 02/25/2007 at 3:02:00 PM

 
"There is a strong anti-religion streak in the homosexual political agenda" I wonder who's fault that is! Why is there an anti-Klan streak in the black community or an anti-Nazi streak in the Jewish community? I think gays would be more sympathetic to religionists if latter would stop picking on the former.

Posted on 02/25/2007 at 3:02:00 PM

 
by the way if we're banning lifestyles because they're "choices", let's start with religion -- religion has felt the need to take on the gays. we have the advantage. intelligence. fashion sense. and we'll scratch your eyes out.

Posted on 12/22/2006 at 12:12:00 AM

 
Gays didn't bring up the issue of gay marriage - it's the christians and republicans who brought it up as an issue designed to rile up the constituents. Once you brought it up, you put gays on the defensive, diverted our attention from other issues like the military and HIV. But the gay community isn't going to shy from this fight just because we didn't start it - after all, we're used to being picked on -- you ignorant slobs have been doing it to us since most of us were in grade school. hate me cuz i'm an a**hole not cuz I take it there.

Posted on 12/22/2006 at 12:12:00 AM

 
Valerie, EVERYONE tries to push their beliefs on others, not just Christians. Look at Elton John! Why is his belief that religion should be banned okay but people who think gay marriage should be banned is NOT okay? Marshall, there are still limitations on gay marriage nationwide so I don't think the stats are equal to non gay marriage. And maybe you don't know any Atheists or Jews who are against it, but I do. And I happen to be a Christian who supports it, so please be careful about generalizing.

Posted on 12/05/2006 at 4:12:00 PM

 
(cont'd) strain of any offspring involved). Why should anyone support an institution that just as often as not results in the shattering of several lives? Is that God’s will? BTW, don’t think I’m against marriage in general based on this comment; I’m just presenting the inverse argument (i.e. - if gay marriage is invariably bad, then shouldn’t straight marriage be invariably good?).

Posted on 12/05/2006 at 12:12:00 PM

 
2. No, I don't personally know any Jews or Muslims or Atheists who are against gay marriage. Though the only people willing to aggressively seek the eradication of it are those who follow religious dogma, Christians, Jews, and Muslims included. I'm an atheist (naturalistic secular humanist), and as far as I can tell, the only reasons anyone has for opposing gay marriage rely on the supposition that their source book is the inerrant word of God, despite being obviously self-contradictory and historically inaccurate based on other texts written around the same times. Any self-respecting atheist wouldn’t oppose gay marriage, though they wouldn’t necessarily have to support it either. I don’t oppose or support heterosexual marriage, but if traditional marriage’s track record were any indication of its “sanctity,” no one should support it, as half of the “God-approved” unions between two American humans end in divorce (and quite often the mental s

Posted on 12/05/2006 at 12:12:00 PM

 
I think all gays get frustrated with Christians at times. I know I am sick of Christians coming up to me trying to convert me to their religion and "save" me. And why are Christians singled out? They do it to themselves. I have never had a Muslim, Jew, or anyone else ask me to switch to their religion. It's only the Christians who go around preaching to people who just don't care to be preached to. I think religious people should be tolerated, but they should not be able to put their beliefs on others. Homosexuality is not a sin for me, for me, it is how I was born.

Posted on 12/05/2006 at 12:12:00 PM

 
Marshall, two things: 1. Gays have a lower divorce rate because they can't get married! You can't get divorced if you aren't married. 2. You don't know any Jews who are against gay marriage? Muslims? Atheists? It is NOT just Christians.

Posted on 12/05/2006 at 10:12:00 AM

 
Torrey - exactly! Pedophiles are different than homosexuals - thank you! Also, it's not gay privileges that gays are seeking, but simple the same rights afforded to their heterosexual counterparts. It's a gay RIGHTS agenda, not privileges. If gays were asking for something DIFFERENT than what heterosexual have, then I'd say privilege. They only want the same things...as for religion and gays - gays should not be banned, religion should not be banned. When did America stop being a place where people were FREE? (free in beliefs, free in opinions, free to live and pursue happiness...)

Posted on 12/05/2006 at 3:12:00 AM

 
Elton John has just lost my respect. FIRST of all, not all Christians hate gays and not all who hate gays are Christians. I happen to be a Christian who SUPPORTS gay marriage. And Christianity is not the ONLY organized religion, so why do Christians get ALL the blame? Why? IGNORANCE. Haven't those who hate religion taken enough away from US? No God in schools. No God in the Pledge of Allegiance. No God on our money, the list of where they want God gone goes on and on...I understand that opposing gay marriage is wrong, but please, STOP blaming ALL Christians. It only makes those of us who support it NOT want to support it!

Posted on 12/04/2006 at 10:12:00 PM

 
That tired saying of the christian right that it is not the sinner, but the sin, is an empty statement. Christianity, throughout history, has punished the sinner. And would very much do so again if given the chance.

Posted on 12/04/2006 at 9:12:00 PM

 
(cont'd) equivalent of a human being. Don't try to hide it. Jesus himself that not a letter, not even a stroke of a letter, of the old law will be abrogated until after the earth has ended and the sky has rolled up. That means that if you do not murder your disobediant children, murder the man next door who uses withdrawal as a contraceptive technique, murder anyone who picks up sticks in their yard on the Sabbath, murder homosexuals, murder lobster-eaters, murder people who put up Christmas Trees, and murder people who wear clothing woven of two different fabric, then you are disobeying the word of your God, and you are all calling Jesus a liar, for which YOU should be killed. That is why atheism is growing in numbers: because Christianity IS a hateful religion and everyone who has read the Bible knows it! Get out of my discourse, you bloodthirsty homophobes, you murderous child-killers, you pedophiles, you Inquisitors.

Posted on 12/04/2006 at 8:12:00 PM

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