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Why Atheism and Morality Are Not Incompatible

By John Gugie, published Jul 19, 2008
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Of course, atheism and morality are entirely compatible. Since my family's Catholic, I'll use our religion and Bible for my argument.

The Bible and Christian followers say that, if we don't believe in Jesus and God, we are evil, not good people, and will probably burn in Hell. I am often told that I need to read the Bible and follow it like Gospel or I'm a sinner and will burn in Hell.

Yes, the Bible and Jesus do tell us many good morals. Jesus teaches us through his parables, which are only stories with morality lessons. The Ten Commandments gives us some good morals to live by.

Why do we NEED religion to teach of these moral beliefs? I don't believe that we do. We already know what we should and shouldn't do. We should all know not to kill, lie, cheat, steal, commit adultery, etc. We don't need religion to be good, law-abiding people.

What about all of the religious people, who learned morality in the Bible, and are bad people?

Most mafia members are strict Christians, yet they kill, sell drugs, weapons, steal, and more.

What about the Catholics and Protestants that have been fighting for decades?

Going with Muslims, does Allah tell terrorists to kill people to be rewarded in Heaven?

I've been ripped off more by so-called religious types way more than any atheist. Why is this?

If religion is so good and teaches us morality, why do so many religious people not abide by the moral lessons they are taught? Why do many people kill in the name of religion? I don't see where any religion tells us that killing is good or allowed.

Learning our morality from religion is no guarantee that people will abide by that morality. This teaches us one important lesson. That is that no matter where we learn our morals, only good people abide by good morals. It doesn't matter where we get our morals, good people will be good people and bad people will be bad people.

With this being said, how are atheist morals any different than religious morals? There are good and bad atheists and there are good and bad religious followers. It doesn't matter where get our good morals, as long we follow them.

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I agree that we don't need religion to be great people. Morality should be instinctive.

Posted on 11/07/2008 at 8:11:37 AM

 
Great editorial, John!

Posted on 10/07/2008 at 1:10:44 AM

 
"I wouldn't say that the members of the Mafia who engage in such activities are Christians - only pretenders." - Every time someone suggests that Christians are capable of immoral behavior other Christians come forward to say that those who behave immorally are not Christians.

Posted on 10/07/2008 at 1:10:15 AM

 
Your arguments are solid John.

Posted on 08/09/2008 at 4:08:08 PM

 
A few points. Jesus' parables are all lessons of morality, so to say the Bible's not about morality confuses me. We gain grace by our morality. If we need God to be moral, why are so many non-believers good and so many believers bad? If God's the only way to be moral, he's not here to guide non-believers, who don't read the Bible. Many that do read and believe are immoral. If we always fail, what is the point of existing? As for Mary Magdalene being a prostitute, it is unproven. Pope Gregory propagated that notion in 591, possibly by confusing the other Marys in the Bible. Tthe first person ever to see Jesus resurrected was to be the new leader of his ministry. The Bible is a bit chauvinistic, so maybe they said THAT Mary was a prostitute so as not to let the real truth out - that women are not inferior. This all goes to show that our translated Bible is flawed and not what it originality said. If God wrote it, we aren't reading God's words but, rather, man's flawed interpretation.

Posted on 08/02/2008 at 11:08:29 AM

 
I believe that the Bible is not a book about morality, it is about grace. It is about God knowing that we cannot follow any morality code by ourselves, that we will always fail, one way or the other, and yet he loves us besides all that. Jesus choose Mary Magdalene, a prostitute, a women that most of us would not associate with, as the first person ever to see Jesus ressurrected. He wanted the entire world to understand what grace meant. "There is nothing I can do to make God love me more, there is nothing I can do to make God love me less." His love is perfect, complete and eternal.

Posted on 08/02/2008 at 11:08:43 AM

 
The most moral is the Atheist who does good not for want of paradise or fear of hell, but because it is the right thing. The ten commandments are more the rants of a "god" who demands worship. Read the first few.

Posted on 07/20/2008 at 8:07:20 AM

 
I like this article. Religious people who claim that they get their morality from scriptures are either lying or are very dangerous people.

Posted on 07/20/2008 at 7:07:31 AM

 
But know that atheists are more outer than inner directed insofar as morality is concerned. That is, they are more afraid of earthly punishment than eternal punishment, and that is what directs any of their moral decisions. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God, it's just that usually with true believers, we atone and attempt to make amends in order to be right with ourselves and others. And morals do need to be taught, and just what do atheists, who don't believe in the 10 Commandments or golden rule, use to guide their moral decisions except fear of earthly punishment and with ever changing social standards for what is "wrong" and "right," especially in the American culture as it is now, just how moral is a Jerry Springer show, anyway. Ten year olds are spending more time learning their morals now from TV, than from either their parents or any other social institution. Pretty scary for the next generation, that's for sure.

Posted on 07/19/2008 at 2:07:31 PM

 
The most important moral is to try to understand what is true. Any person that believes that the Earth was created in seven days has given up that most important moral. Those that honestly search for the truth are not compatible with a believer in the big lie.

Posted on 07/19/2008 at 2:07:31 PM

 
Well, I'd have to disagree with a great deal of this. I wouldn't say that the members of the Mafia who engage in such activities are Christians - only pretenders. And the Catholic faith has a long and cruel history of intolerance, although the strongest anti-abortion group anywhere. I'm not Catholic, but do believe that so long as you confess, you will still go to heaven but might have to spend a little time in pergatory to burn off some of those mortal sins. Doesn't mean you won't get there, it will just take longer. That is where there is a difference between the Christian and Roman Catholic beliefs, as nowhere in the Bible is there any mention whatsoever of pergatory, nor that some sins are greater than others. But the original Hebrew insofar as killing is concerned, actually is worded "Thou shall not murder," with murder being defined as the taking of an innocent life who has done no direct harm to you or anyone else. The Jews (of which Christ was one) stoned lawbreakers.

Posted on 07/19/2008 at 2:07:50 PM

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